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The Next Class 2.0


Welcome to The Next Class 2.0 podcast, where we bring together education veterans and industry leaders to discuss the latest trends and innovations shaping the future of education. Join Rob Birdsell, host and long-time educator and innovator, as he explores the possibilities in K-12 education with a focus on Catholic and online education.

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Season 6, Episode 8

Rob Birdsell, Kent Hickey &
Fabrice Gautrat

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This inspiring episode highlights leadership lessons relevant to school leaders: add outrageous value, build unparalleled environments, and meet people where they are. Coach Gautrat emphasizes clear vision, extreme ownership, communication, and culture-building. He champions self-awareness, joy, coachability, and developing others. His leadership approach—rooted in humility, discipline, growth, and care—offers a strong blueprint for transforming school culture and inspiring teams. 

Past Episodes


Season 3, EPISODE 10
B.J. Cassin
In this episode, Rob and Tom get together with venture capitalist B.J. Cassin. B.J. founded and chaired the Cassin Educational Initiative Foundation, providing start-up funds for 25 Cristo Rey high schools nationwide!
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We can help you find the right online learning solution for your school or family. Complete this form and we will contact you right away.

Or, Contact Us by Phone

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